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 03-10-2011, 09:40 Post: 177311
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On with the fence. We are new to new to owning land and would like some input about puting in wire fencing. We have 35 acres, approx 2000 feet of which run along a road that is not heavly traveled. That encourages people to dump, cut fire wood and just generally be where we dont want anyone. Fencing along the road is our main interest and later on maybe the other three sides. No animals to keep in yet. First question is where do we look for posts other than the big box stores? Can we use landscape timbers for posts, they are cheeper than round fence posts by a buck each. How about the metal t-bars, why not use them, cost is about same as round post yet seem to be easier installation. We have a tractor and a post hole digger attachment. Any online reference would be appreciated. Hopefull that is enough information to get this post started.



I feel your pain!!! We HAD a similar situation in addition to what you mention, night time poaching of deer and partying was going on, not to mention who knows what else. These mutants were using the pipeline to gain access to our property. I continuously called and stayed on the supervisor for this section of pipeline who was intially not supportive of fencing it off........that is until someone set a very large fire. After very cordial phone conversation in which I explain the civil liability the pipeline company had for the fire, the fence magically appeared. It has a gate that stays locked. Things are not perfect now but MUCH MUCH better.

I suggest you talk to the superviser for the section of pipeline that goes over your property. Trespassing has become a HUGE national scurge and the pipeline companies are discovering that good fences make good neighbors. ATV and horseback riding are terrible errosion hazards which can lead to the pipeline being exposed on steep inclines. The fences go a long ways to stopping this problem.

If fact, now that a positive repour has been established, we mow the pipeline and plant it as a giant foodplot. The wildlife loves it and the pipeline folks have that much less to maintain.






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 03-10-2011, 15:43 Post: 177326
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Not debating the suggestions for making a post in the ground to be installed to last. Pipeline right or way easements regularly have heavy equipment come through to trim back trees, cut trees that become "danger trees", and mow/bushhog. Fencing that is installed to last on a permanent basis in the long run may be more cost effective but I suspect the pipeline easement people want the pipeline easement left open or at least fenced in such a way that it can easily and without damaging the fencing be opened up. My suggestion would be to coordinate with the pipeline supervisor to see if they would either cost share or bare the entire cost of a simple steel T-post and barbed wire fence with 4 to 5 wires depending upon the height you want to go with and and simple steel gate that can all be purchased at the local Coop or Tractor Supply Center. T-Posts can easily be pulled up with the proper puller undamaged if need be and later reinstalled. They will STILL provide just as much deterent to trespassers as a more expensive and permanent fence. This is what I use to keep ATV riders off of our property. They make a trail......my hunt club guys fence it off with T-posts and barbed wire. They go around the fenced off area, they add more T-posts and barbed wire. Eventually these douche bags get the idea and find some place else. Hidden IR/Passive flash and other types of trail/game cameras and recording devices also go a LONG ways to identifying the dirtbags who refuse to abide by the NO trespassing signs. I have also had some success in writing, speaking with, and lobbying my state representatives to amend the trespassing code to make it a criminal act and NO LONGER a civil issue to trespass and the crime becomes aggravated criminal trespassing if any signs are disturbed or and damage is done to fences, gates, or the property. The penalty is still a misdemeanor but now instead of a civil fine, the accused is charged criminally and must retain an attorney or plead guilty in general sessions court. This will amount to about $2500 for an attorney plus the fine and court costs. It's not a perfect solution, but it's a start.






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